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Rates and quotes for flight training. Buyer-beware! Our flying rates include fuel, headset, insurance and oil. The rate includes what...
Recent News
November 24, 2011 -Find out more »Check out courses for the 152, 172, 7ECA, Multi, Warrior, and Diamond DA40 are free to all customers and potential customers.
November 6, 2011 -Find out more »Instrument Rating Training in the 21st century
May 12, 2011 -Find out more »Harv’s Air is please to announce our new Integrated Pilot Courses!
April 26, 2011 -Find out more »Now that we have “new and improved” internet access at CYAV, we are excited to bring back the Online Booking System to St. Andrews! The new system is taking bookings May 5 and later.
April 6, 2011 -Find out more »Our 2005 Diamond’s DA40 is a low-wing 4-seat composite airplane that is suitable for everything from primary flight training to personal transportation through hard IFR conditions. The airplane can cruise as fast as 147 knots on 9.5 gallons per hour of fuel through its 4-cylinder 180hp fuel-injected Lycoming engine with constant speed prop.
April 5, 2011 -Lots of movement and flying! Now is the time to do a flight instructor rating!
March 6, 2011 -Find out more »Rates and quotes for flight training. Buyer-beware!
January 27, 2011 -A new article by Harv Penner:
Flight Tests and Standards
January 22, 2011 -Find out more »We are very excited to now have C-GJOX on the line! This is not your “fathers” Cessna 172!
December 4, 2010 -Find out more »Listen into Air Traffic Control for our favorite airports! Excellent for getting used to ATC phraseology and procedures.
Locations
Steinbach:
Steinbach South Airport
Box 1056
Steinbach MB R5G 1M8
CANADA
Phone: +1 (204) 326 2434
Toll-free: 800 HARV AIR
Fax: +1 (204) 326 4182
email: info@harvsair.com
Steinbach.HarvsAir.com
St. Andrews (Winnipeg):
St. Andrews Airport
601 Club Road, Unit 100
St. Andrews, Manitoba R1A 3P6
CANADA
Phone: +1 (204) 339 6186
Toll-free: 800 HARV AIR
Fax: +1 (204) 339 6289
email: StAndrews.HarvsAir.com
Rates and quotes for flight training.
Rates and quotes for flight training. Buyer-beware!
Our flying rates include fuel, headset, insurance and oil. The rate includes what we consider normal fuel cost. If fuel cost spike, then we’ll have pass it on as a fuel surcharge if we think the higher fuel cost are temporary.
Our rates are based on flight time not air time. Flight time means engine on to engine off. Air time is wheels up to wheels down. Beware of being charged for air time + a ground charge. For example if you are being charged $300/hour air time + .5 for ground time you are really paying $450/hour for each flight. It is a enormous difference from being charged for flight time especially when you can get to the air quickly.
Our quotes include a realistic ratio of dual and solo for each course. For example our quote for the Private Pilot Licence is for 45 hours of flight time including 33 hours of dual and 12 hours of solo. This is a reasonable ratio. Some schools will quote on 45 hours by including 17 hours of dual and 28 hours of solo. This covers the Transport Canada requirements, but unless you can teach yourself to fly this ratio is a complete fabrication. Also quotes need to include flight test fees, written test fees, medical test, dual and solo flight time, ground school, landing fees, preparatory instruction, and taxes.
How do you compare prices when getting quotes for flight training? Ask for the rate per hour including headsets, oil, fuel, and insurance. Make sure you know what you are paying for each flight including if it’s air time or flight time.
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER prepay large amounts of money to a flying school in exchange for a “better rate”. Why? Flying schools can lease airplanes, buildings, computers, tables and can look thriving one day and gone the next. Many times student pilots have left with paying a student loan for which they received nothing to a flying school that has gone into receivership. It’s happened in Winnipeg, and all over Canada/USA, again and again. Google around and you’ll see a sob-story of a poor student pilot who prepayed and got nothing.
